{"id":114937,"date":"2024-10-16T21:43:52","date_gmt":"2024-10-16T14:43:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hotvideos24.online\/?p=114937"},"modified":"2024-10-16T21:43:52","modified_gmt":"2024-10-16T14:43:52","slug":"bruce-springsteen-and-zach-bryan-on-songwriting-country-and-america","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hotvideos24.online\/?p=114937","title":{"rendered":"Bruce Springsteen and Zach Bryan on Songwriting, Country, and America"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n     data-ad-layout-key=\"-fb+5w+4e-db+86\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"7910942971\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<span class=\"lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-012\"><span class=\"a-style-intro a-dropcap-intro-background lrv-a-floated-left lrv-u-display-inline-block lrv-u-margin-b-2 u-margin-r-262@desktop lrv-u-margin-b-1@mobile-max lrv-u-margin-r-125 u-width-160 u-width-86@mobile-max u-height-160 u-height-86@mobile-max\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"a-font-theme-primary u-font-size-74 u-font-size-46@mobile-max u-line-height-72 u-line-height-48@mobile-max lrv-u-flex lrv-u-justify-content-center lrv-u-align-items-center lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-height-100p\">N<\/span><br \/>\n\t\t\t<\/span>ot for the<\/span>  first time today, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/zach-bryan\/\" id=\"auto-tag_zach-bryan\" data-tag=\"zach-bryan\">Zach Bryan<\/a> is making his new friend laugh. Bryan is trying to arrange himself on a plush white studio couch for a filmed conversation, and it\u2019s making him self-conscious. \u201cDo I look pompous with my legs crossed?\u201d he asks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe guy next to him, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/bruce-springsteen\/\" id=\"auto-tag_bruce-springsteen\" data-tag=\"bruce-springsteen\">Bruce Springsteen<\/a>, who owns the couch, the studio, and the entire Colts Neck, New Jersey, farm surrounding it, cracks up as he chimes in: \u201cWhat\u2019s the level of my pomposity on this?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBryan spent his childhood on a Navy base in Okinawa, Japan, and then in Oklahoma, worlds away from New Jersey\u2019s Monmouth County. He was all of six years old when <em>The Rising<\/em> came out. Still, Springsteen is one of his biggest heroes \u2014 he has a lyric from the <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-album-reviews\/nebraska-2-114243\/\">Nebraska<\/a><\/em> track \u201cState Trooper\u201d (\u201cDeliver me from nowhere\u201d) tattooed on his left bicep. Springsteen, in turn, has become a huge fan of Bryan, whose finely crafted, roots-inflected tales of American life owe more than a little to the older man\u2019s songwriting. On Bryan\u2019s first two albums, he\u2019s backed mostly by acoustic guitar and harmonica, following the <em>Nebraska<\/em> template.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSpringsteen admires the precision, energy, and intelligence of Bryan\u2019s songwriting, but he\u2019s also clearly charmed by the 28-year-old Navy veteran\u2019s obvious hero worship, puppy-in-a-frat energy, and relentless sincerity. They met for the first time just a few weeks earlier, at rehearsals in Brooklyn\u2019s Barclays Center \u2014 after <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> played matchmaker, Springsteen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/bruce-springsteen-zach-bryan-brooklyn-show-1234995720\/\">ended up flying cross-country midtour to join Bryan onstage<\/a>. (Springsteen\u2019s own tour with the E Street Band is chronicled in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/bruce-springsteen-road-diary-documentary-trailer-1235110803\/\">new documentary<\/a>, <em>Road Diary: Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.<\/em>)<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content-image \/\/  \">\n<figure class=\"o-figure   size-large alignnone lrv-u-max-width-100p\" style=\"width:788px\">\n<div class=\"c-lazy-image  \">\n<div class=\"lrv-a-crop-16x9\" style=\"padding-bottom:calc((1024\/788)*100%);\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/R1393_COV_MoM-bruce-springsteen-zach-bryan.jpg?w=788\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"\" data-lazy-sizes=\"\" height=\"1024\" width=\"788\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div><figcaption class=\"c-figcaption  lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-padding-t-075\">\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tSpringsteen played his first stadium gigs 12 years into his recording career; five years into his own, Bryan is already there. Since his 2019 debut, <em>DeAnn,<\/em> named after his late mom, Bryan has managed to release more than 100 songs, and he\u2019s understandably still unnerved by the speed with which his life has changed. Similar to Springsteen, he makes music that feels like the work of a cult hero who\u2019s somehow broken out to the masses. As he sits down with Springsteen, it\u2019s late April, and what will become his latest hit album, <em>The Great American Bar Scene <\/em>(with another nod to <em>Nebraska<\/em> in the title track\u2019s lyrics), is still a work in progress.\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules a-span1 lrv-u-padding-b-1 u-padding-b-175@desktop-xl lrv-u-padding-t-025 u-overflow-hidden u-border-color-brand-primary u-border-tb-5 lrv-u-padding-b-075@mobile-max\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  recirculation-modules-heading lrv-u-flex u-font-family-theme-primary lrv-u-font-size-20 lrv-u-color-brand-primary lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-012 lrv-u-position-relative lrv-u-padding-b-025 lrv-u-padding-b-1@desktop-xl lrv-u-padding-b-075@mobile-max\">\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn fact, he\u2019s recording some of it this very day. After they wrap up their conversation, the two artists head next door to lay down Springsteen\u2019s vocals for the extraordinary track \u201cSandpaper,\u201d which they debuted onstage in Brooklyn. The song ends up sounding like a conversation between an older man and his past self, with Springsteen bringing the full weight of his years to melancholic, imagery-drenched lyrics he could well have written.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"heading larva \/\/   lrv-a-font-primary-l   \">\n\t\tWatch the video interview below\t<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>You started playing when you were 14. That\u2019s young, if I\u2019m right.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> Fourteen, yes, sir.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> And you enlisted in the Navy at 17. I\u2019m very curious about how your time in the Navy affected your songwriting, and when you started to consider yourself a serious songwriter.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> I still don\u2019t! To this day I have really bad impostor syndrome. But I had a lot of friends in the Navy, and we\u2019d go out to the bars and we\u2019d always have these times, and I\u2019d go back to my barracks room and I\u2019d sing about it. I never had anything else to express myself. You work so much you never really have time to talk about these things. So I\u2019d go home and I would write, and I never in a million years thought I would become a songwriter because I never thought I had the talent. And that\u2019s not a humble thing, it\u2019s just I never in a million years thought I would be sitting here with you. Because we would hear your songs, and they\u2019re beautiful and poetic and genius. When I play [my songs], I\u2019m like, \u201cThere\u2019s no way people enjoy these like they would enjoy a Dylan song or a Springsteen song or anything like that.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/ recirculation-modules a-span1 lrv-u-padding-b-1 u-padding-b-175@desktop-xl lrv-u-padding-t-025 u-overflow-hidden u-border-color-brand-primary u-border-tb-5 lrv-u-padding-b-075@mobile-max\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  recirculation-modules-heading lrv-u-flex u-font-family-theme-primary lrv-u-font-size-20 lrv-u-color-brand-primary lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-012 lrv-u-position-relative lrv-u-padding-b-025 lrv-u-padding-b-1@desktop-xl lrv-u-padding-b-075@mobile-max\">\n<p>\t\tRelated<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tYour creative aspirations and inspirations, did they change as you got older? Or do you still have the same goal you used to?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Same goal as from when I was 15 to now. So that\u2019s 60 years. And it\u2019s basically, \u201cHey, we come out onstage at night, we give everything we have. This is the last night we may play. This is the last audience we may see.\u201d Been doing that for 60 years. Songwriting\u2019s hard. And I don\u2019t think I felt really comfortable with the idea that I was writing good songs till I was about 22 or 23, when I was coming up with the songs for my first record, a record called <em>Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.,<\/em> which came out in 1973.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tNow, let me get this straight. You didn\u2019t do your first public performance till 2019?\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content-image \/\/  \">\n<figure class=\"o-figure   size-full alignnone lrv-u-max-width-100p\" style=\"width:1024px\">\n<div class=\"c-lazy-image  \">\n<div class=\"lrv-a-crop-16x9\" style=\"padding-bottom:calc((683\/1024)*100%);\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/14855_Rolling_Stone_2024_BRUCE_ZACH_BACKDROP-137_22in.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"\" data-lazy-sizes=\"\" height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div><figcaption class=\"c-figcaption  lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-padding-t-075\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"lrv-u-font-size-16 lrv-u-font-size-14@mobile-max lrv-u-font-family-body u-font-style-italic lrv-u-color-grey-dark u-line-height-20 u-letter-spacing-0 u-line-height-18@mobile-max lrv-u-margin-r-025\">Springsteen invited Rolling Stone to his Colts Neck, New Jersey, farm, where we shot inside his Thrill Hill Recording studio and in a century-old barn that was also seen in his 2019 Western Stars documentary.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> This is funny because when I was in the Navy \u2026 there\u2019s a Potbelly subs. It\u2019s like a franchise sub place. They call me and they\u2019re like, \u201cYou should come play all day, for nine hours.\u201d So I remember playing that nine hours. I was just playing covers. And they gave me a $60 check. I got it, and I was like, \u201cOh, I\u2019m a professional musician now.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> What\u2019s mind-boggling is if your first public performance was like 2019, and 1729089832 you are selling out [arenas] and you have some stadium gigs coming. This is crazy!<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> To us too! \u2019Cause the guys in my band are the same dudes I went to high school with. So when we see the tour, we\u2019re like, \u201cWhat happened?\u201d When it comes to your music, it\u2019s \u201cOh, he wrote \u2018Born to Run.\u2019 That\u2019s what happened. He wrote \u2018Dancing in the Dark,\u2019 like, that\u2019s what\u2019s going on with Bruce Springsteen.\u201d With us, it\u2019s like all these random songs that we just threw at a fan.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> It\u2019s just not reading like that, man. You got \u201cOpen the Gate,\u201d got that \u201cRevival\u201d \u2014 those are songs you\u2019re gonna be singing till you\u2019re old as me, you know?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> How have you stayed in love with music after being Bruce Springsteen all these years?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Music is not hard to love. You gotta contextualize and keep the rest of the things that come with it in the right perspective.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> The small group of people who you played to, who you thought you were going to play to your whole life, did you keep them in your heart the entire time up to right now?<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content-image \/\/  \">\n<figure class=\"o-figure   aligncenter size-large aligncenter lrv-u-max-width-100p\" style=\"width:820px\">\n<div class=\"c-lazy-image  \">\n<div class=\"lrv-a-crop-16x9\" style=\"padding-bottom:calc((1024\/820)*100%);\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/14855_Rolling_Stone_2024_BRUCE_BARN-011_13in.jpg?w=820\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"\" data-lazy-sizes=\"\" height=\"1024\" width=\"820\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div><figcaption class=\"c-figcaption  lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-padding-t-075\">\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>That\u2019s the key. Which is really, it\u2019s an idea of yourself, your possibilities, your capabilities, the kind of joy you can bring into the world if you can, and that you can give to people. Music is powerful, man. Poetry is powerful.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> I\u2019ve learned that on my journey. I didn\u2019t know how powerful it was until I started. Was there ever a moment for you when did felt in your heart that you were \u201cSpringsteen\u201d?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> That\u2019s the part of myself that I played down, because hey, I\u2019m a songwriter, I\u2019m from here. I\u2019ve stayed here, with the exception of a short period we spent on the West Coast when my kids were very little. I\u2019ve lived here in this place my whole life, around a group of people I cared about, and I wanted to write music that I felt would simply remain meaningful. I didn\u2019t want to lose touch with who I was, where I came from. I thought that these things were essential to my sanity. Not necessarily to my success, but to my own personal sanity, to my own personal well being..And so that\u2019s what kept me on a certain path for a long time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bryan: <\/strong>There was a quote somewhere about the writing on <em>Nebraska<\/em> that really resonated with me a lot: \u201cI know with <em>Nebraska,<\/em> I was interested in making myself as invisible as possible.\u201d That\u2019s my favorite record ever written.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> <em>Nebraska<\/em> happened as an accident. I was just trying to save money in the studio. I had the biggest success I\u2019d ever had in 1981. We had a hit single, \u201cHungry Heart.\u201d But I was already wondering \u2014 there\u2019s an element of what we do that can feel hazardous to your inner life. My idea was \u201cI\u2019m gonna take this a little slower, I\u2019m gonna slow this down a little bit.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>I\u2019m in the exact place right now in my writing and career. I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, wow, I really came out of the gate fast.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> You did.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> I\u2019ve really risen fast. But now, at this point, I can\u2019t even catch my own back wind. Not in a bad way, either. It just feels like I put so much music out, people have read into it so much; but in reality, I was just writing music, and now I gotta slow down and home in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> You gotta listen to your inner voice \u2014 that\u2019s really important. When <em>Nebraska<\/em> came along, initially it was just like, \u201cI just want to put some songs down, so I\u2019m not spending all my money in the studio.\u201d The strange thing is, I was making <em>Nebraska<\/em> and <em>Born in the U.S.A.<\/em> at the exact same time. I\u2019ve got the cut \u201cBorn in the U.S.A.\u201d I know this thing is lightning in a bottle. And then I have my demos from <em>Nebraska,<\/em> and I\u2019m really drawn \u2026\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pullquote larva \/\/ featured-pullquote featured-pullquote-icon lrv-u-display-inline-flex lrv-u-flex-direction-column u-flex-direction-row@desktop lrv-u-position-relative u-min-width-329@mobile-max lrv-u-margin-a-00 lrv-a-font-secondary-xxl   \">\n<p>You got songs you\u2019re gonna be singing till you\u2019re old as me, you know?<br \/>\u2014Bruce Springsteen<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>To the murder, to the serial-killer murderer!<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Exactly.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Did you feel as dark in your life at that point as those songs sounded? Or were you more happy about how dark those songs sounded because you were a songwriter?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> If I look at what happened to me in the year or so after I wrote the record, I was going through some stuff that I didn\u2019t even know I\u2019d be going through. I\u2019ve had to wrestle with depression in my life. And I\u2019ve got my drugs I take that keep me sane, but at that time, I didn\u2019t have any of those things. And it was really when I hit a wall at a certain moment, personally. I always think your records are premonitions of what\u2019s going to be coming up in your consciousness, and you\u2019re coming up out of your subconsciousness in the immediate aftermath of what you created.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> When it comes to <em>Born in the U.S.A.<\/em> and <em>Nebraska,<\/em> those two things are perceived like they came from two different songwriters. It\u2019s so crazy.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> I was feeling that conflict myself, of being two different people.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> But that makes you good at it, is what\u2019s hilarious.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> It gives your work a breadth that is unusual. It was unusual to go from a record like <em>Nebraska<\/em> and then <em>Born in the U.S.A.,<\/em> which I knew was going to be a popular record, but I had no idea it was going to be what it was.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> To this day, we have this bit, me and my band, where we\u2019ll go into a bar \u2014 there\u2019s TouchTunes now, right? We\u2019ll go in, and we\u2019ll put \u201cBorn in the U.S.A.\u201d on repeat 200 times. And we\u2019ll see who leaves. The people who stay around, we\u2019ll hang out with them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> This is crazy, my man.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> The <em>Nebraska<\/em> movie that\u2019s coming out, are you part of it? Are you excited about it?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> I\u2019ve seen the scripts and I\u2019ve talked to the director. They\u2019re just putting it all together, so I don\u2019t have an awful lot to say about it, but I\u2019m excited about it happening. It\u2019ll be an interesting story.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s gotta come as such a shock, if you\u2019re just a guy, and they\u2019re like, \u201cHey, we\u2019re gonna make a movie about what you did at some point in your life.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Yeah, it\u2019s an interesting story, and the script is really good. I feel good about the whole project.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Me and the guys [in my band] are geeked, too. It\u2019s all we talked about for two weeks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> The band is really good. So I was curious where your band came from.<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content-image \/\/  \">\n<figure class=\"o-figure   alignfull size-full alignfull lrv-u-max-width-100p\" style=\"width:1024px\">\n<div class=\"c-lazy-image  \">\n<div class=\"lrv-a-crop-16x9\" style=\"padding-bottom:calc((683\/1024)*100%);\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/V2-14855_Rolling_Stone_2024_BRUCE_ZACH_STUDIO-113_22in_a1f5b2.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"\" data-lazy-sizes=\"\" height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div><figcaption class=\"c-figcaption  lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-padding-t-075\">\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> So we have the same story, essentially the hometown thing. It was a really hard process getting out of the Navy. I didn\u2019t even want to get out. But I get home and I call all my best friends from high school who had put all their instruments down, and I\u2019m like, \u201cHey, guys, I need a band, and I don\u2019t trust anybody. I trust you guys. You guys can barely play a few instruments.\u201d One of my best friends quit his job as a teacher. Another quit his job as a metal technician.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWe got in my truck and drove to the Iowa State Fair and played our first show. It was the most terrifying experience of my life. Because we didn\u2019t even rehearse. We\u2019re just like, \u201cLet\u2019s do this.\u201d And my fiddle player, I tweeted out one day, in all caps, I go, \u201cI need a fiddle player.\u201d I\u2019m sure that\u2019s not how you got your band members \u2014 tweeting, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> I put an ad in the newspaper! The interesting thing that you said is that you needed people you could trust. More than you needed somebody who was a professional. That was the same thing. My guys all came out of Asbury Park. It was the guys I\u2019d known for years. They were people I felt comfortable around. They were people who I knew I could be myself around. And they were people who I knew would keep me being myself and wouldn\u2019t let me get away with it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> My boys call me out all the time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> How deep into your new record are you?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> There\u2019s 14 songs, but I\u2019m not sure how I wanna record a lot of \u2019em. You have a lot to do with it. Other musicians have a lot to do with it. I\u2019m like, \u201cHow did they do this?\u201d This is the first time in my life where I\u2019ve given myself time not to know, where I\u2019m really thinking about it.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Where have you been recording the new stuff?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s what\u2019s funny. Some of them are on my phone and some of them are at Electric Lady. And some of them are full productions here, and some of them are [recorded in] fields.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Everything you\u2019re doing so far is right.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> Hopefully, it stays that way. When it came to \u201cI\u2019m on Fire\u201d \u2014 the synth, did that come first or was it what you\u2019re missing after?<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content-image \/\/  \">\n<figure class=\"o-figure   alignfull size-full alignfull lrv-u-max-width-100p\" style=\"width:1024px\">\n<div class=\"c-lazy-image  \">\n<div class=\"lrv-a-crop-16x9\" style=\"padding-bottom:calc((683\/1024)*100%);\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/14855_Rolling_Stone_2024_ZACH_BARN-005_22in.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"\" data-lazy-sizes=\"\" height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div><figcaption class=\"c-figcaption  lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-padding-t-075\">\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>That was literally a song I wrote in two minutes. Didn\u2019t even think about it. Didn\u2019t think it was ever going to be on a record. And in the studio, there\u2019s me playing that Johnny Cash Tennessee Three guitar. And then there\u2019s the synthesizer, and there\u2019s Max [Weinberg] playing a bass foot. I think that\u2019s all that\u2019s on that record. There\u2019s nothing on that record. Wrote it in two minutes. And if you go to iTunes now, it\u2019s the number-one favorite song out of every song I\u2019ve written. I wrote that in two minutes!<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s what\u2019s crazy about songs. You never know. People will just like what they like.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Do you take a long time to write? Because the songs are very detailed. Do you edit out verses?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Probably the same as you. Do you go back and forth between both?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>I do.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Me too. Yeah. Sometimes I\u2019ll write a song in two minutes and it\u2019s \u201cOh, this is going to be great.\u201d And then I\u2019ll write a song in three months.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Oh, you will?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> And then I\u2019ll throw it away.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Yeah, that\u2019s just the way it is. That\u2019s amazing. I have so many good Zach Bryan lines here that we should get into. \u201cOklahoman Son\u201d: I love that song. \u201cYou can\u2019t hide where you\u2019re from\/With night-crawler blood on your castin\u2019 thumb\/You can fight and fiend and sell your guns\/But you\u2019ll always be the Oklahoman son\u201d [<em>pauses<\/em>]. That\u2019s good! That kind of detail, that night-crawler blood. Where did that come from?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> Do you ever think Asbury Park is a small town?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Yeah, I do.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Do you ever feel like no matter where you go, like you were saying earlier, you\u2019re always gonna have that in your heart and your soul? I felt like that last year at a point. My grandfather used to take me fishing, and my father used to take me fishing, and we all grew up really kinda \u2014 not poor, but not middle class, either. And I wanted to go home so bad after being in New York and Philly for years. I was like, \u201cI gotta go back to Oklahoma.\u201d And I went, and some stuff happened when I got there, and I was like, \u201cAh, never mind.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tBut there\u2019s something really beautiful about Oklahoma, like in the summertime and the green grass. Same as out here, probably. When you grow up somewhere, you become accustomed to the way the dirt smells and the way it smells when you mow your grass. I\u2019d missed that for a long time. That\u2019s what \u201cOklahoman Son\u201d is about.\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pullquote larva \/\/ featured-pullquote featured-pullquote-icon lrv-u-display-inline-flex lrv-u-flex-direction-column u-flex-direction-row@desktop lrv-u-position-relative u-min-width-329@mobile-max lrv-u-margin-a-00 lrv-a-font-secondary-xxl   \">\n<p>I\u00a0don\u2019t want to be a country musician. I want to be a songwriter. \u2014Zach Bryan<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Once again, the level of detail and the maturity in your writing is just amazing.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> In \u201cUsed Cars,\u201d you were talking about your mom, she\u2019s fingering her wedding band. That\u2019s where I get stuff like that, is lines from men like yourself. Is that real? Did that really happen? Do you remember being a kid and looking at your mom like kind of messing with her finger?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Where that came from is we always had used cars. We never had a new car. So I always remember the trips to the used-car dealer, and so some of the detail just came out of being a writer. The touching of the ring, that\u2019s just writing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> It\u2019s hard to explain that to people sometimes, when they ask where you came up with something like that.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Hey, you\u2019re a writer. That\u2019s how it happens, that\u2019s how you process information. That kind of writing for me started when I wrote a song called \u201cThe River.\u201d It was the first song where I wrote in kind of character, with a lot of detail, and after that I said, \u201cI really like writing like this.\u201d On <em>Nebraska,<\/em> I ended up writing all those detail-filled songs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>RS:<\/strong><em> <\/em><strong>It\u2019s connected to the country-music songwriting tradition for both of you. Bruce, you\u2019ve said in the past that \u201cThe River\u201d came directly from listening to Hank Williams\u2019 music.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen<\/strong>: When I was about Zach\u2019s age, I started to listen to country music: Hank Williams, a lot of Johnny Cash. <em>Darkness on the Edge of Town,<\/em> <em>The River,<\/em> the song \u201cWreck on the Highway\u201d from that record, and then <em>Nebraska<\/em> were a result of me finally processing my country influences in a way that I felt comfortable with.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s where I\u2019m at in my own career right now. I love country music, but I also love an assortment of stuff \u2014 Kings of Leon, Jason Isbell, all those guys.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> You can do whatever you want, man. You\u2019re in the right place.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>That\u2019s insane to hear from you.\u2026 When I listen to your music \u2014 I\u2019m not insulting your genre \u2014 but when I listen to your music, I\u2019m like, \u201cIf you put different production to this, it\u2019s a country song.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Right. There\u2019s a lot of country in it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s why I don\u2019t want to be a country musician.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> That\u2019s fascinating.\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content-image \/\/  \">\n<figure class=\"o-figure   alignfull size-full alignfull lrv-u-max-width-100p\" style=\"width:1024px\">\n<div class=\"c-lazy-image  \">\n<div class=\"lrv-a-crop-16x9\" style=\"padding-bottom:calc((683\/1024)*100%);\">\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/OG_14855_Rolling_Stone_2024_BRUCE_ZACH_BAR-009_22in_DannyClinch.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"\" data-lazy-sizes=\"\" height=\"683\" width=\"1024\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div><figcaption class=\"c-figcaption  lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-padding-t-075\">\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>I don\u2019t want to be a country musician. Everyone calls me it. I want to be a songwriter, and you\u2019re quintessentially a songwriter. No one calls Bruce Springsteen \u2014 hate to use your name in front of you \u2014 but no one calls Bruce Springsteen a freaking rock musician, which you are one, but you\u2019re also an indie musician, you\u2019re also a country musician. You\u2019re all these things encapsulated in one man. And that\u2019s what songwriting is.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> No, it\u2019s interesting. \u2019Cause I know that you\u2019ve been connected to the country genre, which I can hear, but if you go and see the show, there\u2019s so much \u2014 and I don\u2019t want to call it rock \u2014 just energy in your performance. You bust all those different genre boundaries down.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s why you\u2019re a hero to me, because no one\u2019s ever come up to you and said you were in any sort of lane. When I first started making music, I told Stefan and Danny, my managers, I was like, \u201cI want to be in a lane where, when people look back, they can listen to my music and it\u2019s supremely whatever <em>you<\/em> were doing.\u201d You were the only person in my head that has ever done that.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> You\u2019re carving your own space out. You\u2019re not going to get locked into one genre or another genre.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> Were you ever locked in a genre when you first started? When you first went to Columbia, were they like, \u201cOh, this is a rock musician\u201d?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Well, I got signed because I was a singer-songwriter. They didn\u2019t even know I had a band.\u2026 James Taylor, John Prine, Loudon Wainwright, Jackson Browne. The singer-songwriter was huge in 1972. I got signed to be one of those guys.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> I love all of those guys. But did you ever feel a little bit of resentment when you started becoming the, like, guy? Was there a moment where people were like, \u201cScrew this guy?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> Whenever you have that level of success, you see everything. \u201cHe\u2019s great.\u201d \u201cScrew this guy.\u201d You see it all. That\u2019s just part of the job description; you got to live with that. I always say, \u201cHey, I get to do what I want and then people get to say what they want about it.\u201d That\u2019s my job.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s beautiful advice, man.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>RS: Zach, are you feeling that \u201cFuck that guy\u201d energy out there? Is that why you asked?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> No. Honestly. Now I don\u2019t. I used to, like a year or two years ago. I was really in my own head. I\u2019m, like, I\u2019m less angry with the world now. I never really understood what I was mad at. I always had that chip on my shoulder. People would be like, \u201cWhat\u2019s your deal?\u201d Because I thought everyone was out to get something from me.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>You\u2019ve got good people around you. And the way that you\u2019re making your choices is important as far as self-preservation goes, and setting the right sort of environment for you to do your work in. You\u2019ve made good choices.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan<\/strong>: How much was \u201cMy Hometown\u201d and [those types of songs] derived from your dad, and how much was it derived from paying attention to the people around you? Did you ever combine the two?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>All the time. I mean, you use everything you\u2019ve seen. My dad, he was troubled and really hardscrabble blue-collar. For me as a son, there was something about his pain that I felt I needed to communicate. I wrote so many songs coming from that place. That\u2019s where the body of my work really comes out of: a feeling I had for my father\u2019s life and my mother\u2019s.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> That\u2019s why I released <em>DeAnn<\/em>; it\u2019s for my mom. She had passed away. I was like, \u201cHow do I keep her name alive?\u201d I thought songs would keep her name alive forever. Which was cool. So when you said that, that\u2019s beautiful. The way you just put that is something I\u2019ve always searched for.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>RS: Bruce once said, introducing a song that he wrote about his mom called \u201cThe Wish,\u201d that there were not a lot of people in rock and country and rap who were brave enough to write a song about their moms. But you, Zach, have written many of them.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Yeah, because moms make the world go \u2019round. Period. I don\u2019t care how old you are. Like, are you serious? Mothers are the best thing that\u2019s ever happened to the world. They are just as strong as the dudes, and 10 times as smart.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> Dude, if you can\u2019t commend that, you\u2019re a coward. You\u2019re a weirdo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>My mother was the strength of our house.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Mothers are the strength of every house. Period. And they always will be. And it\u2019s, if our moms didn\u2019t exist, none of us would. I love singing songs about my mom. If it wasn\u2019t for who she was, I wouldn\u2019t be who I was. Same with your father probably, writing all those songs about him. You\u2019re like, \u201cOh, if I sing this about him, it feels like he might be around.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>It was a way that centered our relationship. He heard things we couldn\u2019t talk about, but I could write about in a song. And then, amazingly enough, I remember I said, \u201cHey, Pops, what\u2019s your favorite song?\u201d \u201cThe ones about me.\u201d That\u2019s what he told me.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>RS: There is so much pessimism and division in the U.S. right now. I\u2019m wondering, as two great American songwriters, if there is any degree of optimism from the two of you about the chances of us overcoming all of that.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Big question. I don\u2019t know. My take on it is it\u2019s bad, but it\u2019s going to get better. I will sit here and I will predict again, Donald Trump will not be the next president of the United States. Of course, I went all across Europe saying that the last time, and I was wrong. It\u2019s hard to read because sometimes I think, \u201cGee, I led my life a certain way. It rolled out a certain way, and maybe that has something to do with why I remain hopeful.\u201d And I just think that generationally, I still feel hopeful. I think we\u2019re going to get past the degree of division that\u2019s in the country right now, and move on to something else\u2014\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>Gratitude, maybe?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>I have absolutely nothing brilliant to say about this, so I\u2019m bailing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan: <\/strong>So, I\u2019m 28. I don\u2019t have that much experience. I\u2019m neither one way or the other. I served my country for eight, nine years. I think America ebbs and flows, and it always has. Always will. I\u2019m tired of everyone arguing. It\u2019s about time people were just thankful to be American. \u2019Cause personally, I\u2019m so grateful I get to wake up in a country that\u2019s free. It\u2019s really special to be in a country where there\u2019s so many different people and so many different parties and so many people that have an opportunity to come together and be kind to each other and respect each other\u2019s backgrounds. There\u2019s people that have died defending our rights. Men and women have died for these things, and we just are, like, pissed about what?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen: <\/strong>Yeah.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Bryan:<\/strong> Being free enough to say everything we feel? It\u2019s weird. It\u2019s strange. It blows my mind all the time. And I\u2019m just thankful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<strong>Springsteen:<\/strong> That\u2019s as political as we\u2019re gonna get!\u00a0<\/p>\n<hr class=\"separator larva \/\/ lrv-u-border-t-1  \"\/>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t<em><strong>ABOUT THE PHOTOS<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/musicians-on-musicians\/\" id=\"auto-tag_musicians-on-musicians\" data-tag=\"musicians-on-musicians\">Musicians on Musicians<\/a> is all about two artists diving deep into the creative process, so this year we again shot each pairing in an iconic studio \u2014 from MCO in Mexico City to the home studios of Christina Aguilera and Bruce Springsteen.<\/em><\/p>\n<section class=\"brands-most-popular \/\/  a-span1 lrv-u-padding-b-1 lrv-u-border-b-1 lrv-u-padding-b-075@desktop a-triple-border-t-1-5-1 featured-trending lrv-u-padding-b-00@mobile-max\">\n<h2 id=\"section-heading\" class=\"c-heading larva  lrv-a-font-primary-m lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-012 lrv-u-padding-t-050 lrv-u-padding-b-075\">\n<p>\t\tTrending<\/p>\n<\/h2>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"production-credits \/\/ lrv-u-margin-b-2\">\n<p class=\"production-credits-title-text \/\/ lrv-u-font-family-primary lrv-u-font-size-13 u-line-height-16 lrv-u-text-transform-uppercase u-letter-spacing-008 lrv-u-padding-tb-075 lrv-u-border-b-1 lrv-u-margin-b-00  lrv-u-border-t-3\"> Production Credits<\/p>\n<p class=\"production-credits-markup \/\/ lrv-u-font-family-body lrv-u-font-size-12 lrv-u-line-height-16 lrv-u-padding-tb-1 lrv-u-margin-tb-00 lrv-u-border-b-1\"> Photography Direction by <strong>EMMA REEVES<\/strong>. Executive Producer: <strong>KIMBERLY ALEAH<\/strong>. Co-Executive Producer: <strong>Tara Reid<\/strong>. Springsteen: Hair by <strong>CHRIS MCMILLIAN<\/strong> for <strong>SOLO ARTISTS<\/strong> at the <strong>CHRIS MCMILLAN SALON<\/strong>. Makeup by <strong>MIN MIN MA<\/strong> using <strong>111SKIN<\/strong>. Produced by <strong>MIYAZU SATO<\/strong> at <strong>URBAN NYC<\/strong>. Director\/Video Director of Photography: <strong>WILL CHILTON<\/strong>. Camera Operators: <strong>RYAN NORTHROP<\/strong> and <strong>STEVE FRANCHEK<\/strong>. Sound Mixer: <strong>SAMEE JUNIO<\/strong>. Editors: <strong>MANOLI DESPINES <\/strong>and <strong>ADEN KHAN<\/strong>. Color Grading:\u00a0 <strong>AYUMI ASHLEY<\/strong>. Photography assistance by <strong>CODY CUTLER <\/strong>and <strong>ED SMITH<\/strong>. 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