{"id":115169,"date":"2024-10-17T11:58:47","date_gmt":"2024-10-17T04:58:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hotvideos24.online\/?p=115169"},"modified":"2024-10-17T11:58:47","modified_gmt":"2024-10-17T04:58:47","slug":"ryan-murphy-fx-chief-john-landgraf-on-that-grotesquerie-twist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hotvideos24.online\/?p=115169","title":{"rendered":"Ryan Murphy &#038; FX Chief John Landgraf On That Grotesquerie Twist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n     data-ad-layout-key=\"-fb+5w+4e-db+86\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"7910942971\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>SPOILER ALERT! This post contains major spoilers for Episode 7 of <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/fx\/\" id=\"auto-tag_fx\" data-tag=\"fx\">FX<\/a>\u2018s <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/grotesquerie\/\" id=\"auto-tag_grotesquerie\" data-tag=\"grotesquerie\">Grotesquerie<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tAudiences were probably wondering how FX\u2019s <em>Grotesquerie <\/em>would sustain another four episodes when Niecy Nash\u2019s Lois Tryon had seemingly caught (and killed) the serial killer on the loose.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tWell, things take a massive turn in Episode 7 with the revelation that viewers have not known reality up to this point. Instead, the hunt for a serial killer that they\u2019ve watched unfold has been happening in Lois\u2019 head. Her husband, Marshall (Courtney B. Vance) isn\u2019t the one in a coma. She is. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tSister Megan isn\u2019t a squirly nun at all, but rather the new Chief Detective who effectively stole Lois\u2019 job. Lois\u2019 daughter Merritt (Raven Goodwin) is actually a well-educated cancer researcher, and the dreamy nurse Eddie (Travis Kelce) is her husband. At least, he was until he had an affair with Lois prior to her descension into a coma. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tAnd we\u2019ve barely scratched the surface of the truth, teases FX chief <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/john-landgraf\/\" id=\"auto-tag_john-landgraf\" data-tag=\"john-landgraf\">John Landgraf<\/a>, who says \u201cthere\u2019s more layers to come\u201d over the remaining three episodes. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tHe and <em>Grotesquerie <\/em>creator <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/tag\/ryan-murphy\/\" id=\"auto-tag_ryan-murphy\" data-tag=\"ryan-murphy\">Ryan Murphy<\/a> spoke with Deadline about taking such a big swing with the latest project in their 21-year working relationship and the implications of this revelation over the rest of the series. They also explain how they\u2019re pushing new boundaries, and in some ways revisiting their first project <em>Nip\/Tuck<\/em>, with Murphy\u2019s upcoming FX series <em>The Beauty.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: Ryan, how did the idea for this reveal come about, where you\u2019re simultaneously showing the end of Lois\u2019 story in her head and also giving glimpses of what I would assume is reality?<\/em><\/strong> <strong><em>And especially, can you talk about that end fight between Lois and Sister Megan as a visualization of Lois emerging from her coma?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>RYAN MURPHY: <\/strong>The thing I think that we were really interested in talking about was how the world we\u2019re living in really is a horror show. We were very interested in writing about existential dread and calamitous things that are going around that I think everybody feels helpless about right now. So that\u2019s really what it started off as. I\u2019ve never done anything like this, where we wrote these episodes just to see what it was like. I\u2019d never just done anything quote-unquote \u2018on spec.\u2019 When I finished them with Robbie [Baitz] and Joe [Baken], I called up John and I said, \u2018I\u2019ve never done this for you in our entire working relationship of 21 years, but I wrote somethingm and I finished almost an entire season \u2014 nine of 10 \u2014 and I\u2019m sending them all to you.\u2019 He was like, \u2018Oh, okay, yes please.\u2019 So he got through like the first three or four, and we had a talk. I\u2019m like, \u2018No no. Keep going. Keep going.\u2019 So after seven, John called me and was really excited, just because it was such a big swing idea to create something like that. So that that\u2019s how it all came about\u2026to write about global warming, women\u2019s reproductive rights, several things that are upsetting and dangerous right now. As an artist, that was what I was interested in writing about and trying to put them in a genre, or a different kind of horror than I\u2019ve ever done before.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>JOHN LANDGRAF: <\/strong>I have to say\u2026it feels to me sometimes living in the world today like being trapped in a nightmare that you can\u2019t claw your way out of it. Like you\u2019re in quicksand and you can\u2019t find the ground of reality, right? So that really, it just caught me, when I read it, as an extremely accurate reflection existentially and emotionally, of what it feels like to live today. Then I thought the idea of putting Lois\u2019 character, especially after Niecy signed on to do it, in that center, was just so on point. Of course, we had no clue at that time that Kamala Harris would be the Democratic candidate for the President of the United States. But you could sort of feel the strange nature of reality, and so Lois juxtaposed against this nightmare trying to fight her way to life and to some sort of comprehension of reality, just the whole thing just really zeros in on that. I was shocked when I saw the sequence itself, because they it\u2019s just a tour de force from a cinematic standpoint, and in terms of how they staged it and how they shot it, and it\u2019s a very, very elaborately constructed piece. The whole thing, you\u2019ll see Easter eggs. You go back, you\u2019ll see Easter eggs all the way through all the first seven episodes, but then that is the fulcrum on which the whole thing turns, and it\u2019s so beautifully constructed from a cinematic standpoint, it just shocked me when I saw it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: Yeah, I\u2019m curious how you felt seeing that sequence come to life? I imagine reading it is one thing, but seeing it constructed visually in that way is much more striking.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>MURPHY: <\/strong>I wrote it, and I was even shocked. It was startling\u2026what was important to me was to bring in a new generation of filmmakers, so Max Winkler and Alexis Martin Woodall were our showrunners, and they worked really hard on the visuals. So even if you go back to the first episode, what\u2019s really fun about this process for me, I\u2019ve never done anything like this, is every episode has probably 10 to 15 Easter eggs that tell you, \u2018Oh, she\u2019s in a coma.\u2019 The first visual in the first episode is a hospital curtain on fire. We designed all the window treatments throughout many, many, many scenes of the show [to represent] Lois surrounded with that hospital scrim around her. In the first episode, people have gotten this wrong, but Lesley Manville famously eats strawberries \u2014 those were cherries and those were designed to be blood clots.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tWhen we did seven, we built three different versions of that set, the kitchen set. So as it progressed, they were all different sizes. You got the sense of a lot of black surround with a white tunnel, which is that door of her in the coma, moving from a comatose state back into the natural world. So, I mean, every episode has so many of those, and by design. I\u2019m just so proud that it never got out. The twist never got out. Some people did have to sign NDAs, but for the most part, I lived in dread every day that somebody who made it, was on the crew or something, was going to come out and reveal the twist, as often happens, but nobody did. So I\u2019m really proud of everybody and thrilled about that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>LANDGRAF: <\/strong>That kitchen started out as a real kitchen, like a practical kitchen in a real house, and then they rebuilt it so that they could turn it into a liminal, sort of interior, metaphysical space. You can sort of watch the physical space of the kitchen transition through the cinematic, like you\u2019re just gripped by the fight \u2014 the verbal fight that turns into this incredible, knockdown, drag out physical fight, but there\u2019s an entire language of film that\u2019s coursing under the bottom of it that\u2019s revealing to you that that this is not a practical world. It\u2019s not a real world. This is an imagined world that she\u2019s either going to die in or find her way out of.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: Ryan, when did you know you wanted Niecy to play Lois?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>MURPHY: <\/strong>Well, Niecy, in my life, is my oldest collaborator. John and I have worked together for 21 years now. I\u2019ve worked with Niecy since 1998. I\u2019m bad at math. What is that? 26 years? Niecy and I have done many, many things. Some things went, some things didn\u2019t. But she won the Emmy for <em>Dahmer<\/em>, which was thrilling to me. After five attempts, she finally got her Emmy through my work. So she and I always had meetings about, \u2018What are you working on? What are you doing? What are <em>you<\/em> doing?\u2019 I had just started to do this, and just started to figure out what it was. She was riveted to it, because normally, in a piece like this, that part is played by a white male anti-hero, traditionally in the trope of that genre. She and I both really, really loved her in that part, which seemed very fresh to both of us. So what happened was, we wrote them all, and I sent them to her, like I sent them to John. John and I obviously talked about the casting of Niecy, and John had worked with Niecy before and loved her. So we were like, \u2018Oh, that feels great.\u2019 So I sent them to her, and I had no idea what her reaction to it would be, but she read them all\u2026and she said, \u2018Where do I sign? Is my contract on its\u2019 way? I was like, \u2018Oh.\u2019 She said, \u2018I cannot tell you, the opportunity for me to play a part like this \u2014 I never get offered anything like that.\u2019 <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: And how did you find Micaela Diamond? Putting her opposite Niecy, especially with a scene like that, seems like it might initially feel like a risk, but she blew it out of the water.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>MURPHY: <\/strong>She did. It was interesting. Micaela was the last person cast on that show, and John and I had talked for a long time about, \u2018Well, maybe it\u2019s this and maybe it\u2019s that, or maybe it\u2019s this person, maybe it\u2019s that.\u2019 I think ultimately, what I was looking for was someone that you had not really seen before. The surprise, right? You knew Niecy, powerhouse Niecy. You knew powerhouse Courtney [B. Vance]. You knew powerhouse Lesley Manville, but I wanted to do a multi-generational show. So what happened with Micaela was I did a series of auditions with her, and she was so great. In the last audition that I had with her, she said, \u2018Have you ever heard about this serial killer nun?\u2019 And I was like, \u2018Wait, I don\u2019t know about a serial killer nun. How is that possible?\u2019 And she said, \u2018Oh, there was this nun. And blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.\u2019 So as soon as she said that, I was like, \u2018Oh, you, you\u2019re the one.\u2019 So then what happened is I went back and I kind of re-tailored things for her, like the squeaky, fromm Disney<em> <\/em>character [line]. She was amazing and very collaborative. What I loved about her, what I loved about everybody who did this, is everybody knew going into it, you just have to trust, because you\u2019re being pushed along with the blueprint. So example, with Micaela, the scene in Episode 3 where she\u2019s possessed in the hallway, and she sort of vomits, and the white foam comes out of her mouth, that was written on the page: \u2018Sister Megan walks down the hallway.\u2019 That\u2019s all it was. I was directing that and I\u2019m like, \u2018I have this idea. I have this idea that\u2026 it\u2019s so crazy, but it\u2019s what Niecy would have thought in a dream-like state.\u2019 So she said, \u2018Okay, let\u2019s do that.\u2019 And I kind of choreographed it for her, and then it was just crazy\u2026I love doing that with young actors. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: So, what is the implication here? What does this mean for the rest of the story?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>LANDGRAF: <\/strong>Well, this is like the first layer of baseline reality that starts to get revealed, and then the eighth episode, you start to unpack. Why were all these characters in Lois\u2019 dream <em>this<\/em>, as opposed to who they really were? What did that mean symbolically? So it\u2019s dealing with her symbolic world. But then the real world, which we have now reached, starts to come back in a really fierce way by the ninth episode\u2026and that it imposes itself in an even more profound way in the tenth episode. So this thing is like a Russian nesting doll, where you just found out the doll that\u2019s around the littlest doll in the middle. But, there\u2019s more layers to come. I just love the level of ambition and the rigorousness with which it was constructed, both dramaturgically and from a character and thematic standpoint and cinematically. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tSo it\u2019s like nothing I\u2019ve ever worked on before. I think that\u2019s probably true for Ryan, too, and I think both he and I are similar in that we\u2019ve been doing this for a long time. We\u2019ve had a lot of successes together. We\u2019ve had a lot of successes separately, and we\u2019re restless. We want to try new things. I think what I love about Ryan, and this is something that\u2019s lost in the mythos of the scale of his career, and how much money he\u2019s made, and how many Emmys he has. He\u2019s an artist, right? He always was, still is, when he gets his teeth into something, it\u2019s truly original. I think that\u2019s what\u2019s always interested me in television, is, what\u2019s the new? What\u2019s the thing that hasn\u2019t been done before, hasn\u2019t been tried before? We\u2019ve done a bunch of those things together, and this is one of many.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>MURPHY: <\/strong>I love working with John so much because our relationship \u2014 we\u2019ve been working together since 2003\u2014\u00a0 is really based on the idea of, like, \u2018Why? Why aren\u2019t we taking big swings? We should do that.\u2019 So if you look at what we\u2019ve done together, <em>Nip\/Tick <\/em>was a very big swing. It was really my first thing. I had one show before, but I got to direct it, and it was kind of auteur driven. It was a social commentary. Then we did <em>American Horror Story<\/em>, which was a huge swing, to let a company and let someone like John approve a show where at the end of the first season, you burn down the sets and you completely start over, and you ask an audience to invest not just in the show, but the brand of the show. That was new for both of us. <em>OJ<\/em> [<em>American Crime Story<\/em>] was new for both of us. That was kind of the beginning of a true crime, prestige thing that was interesting for both of us. Not a lot of people at that time believed in that project, but we did. I think <em>Grotesquerie <\/em>is in line of that stuff that\u2019s like, \u2018Huh?\u2019 It feels like a really big swing to me, and it feels like it\u2019s also about something, culturally. It\u2019s deeply about something. With this episode, you have to do some work with it, and what I hope people can do is go back and watch it from the beginning knowing, like, \u2018Oh, that\u2019s what that was about, and that\u2019s what that was about like.\u2019 I love that as a viewer. I only make things that I want to watch, so I like that Easter egg approach, and every one of those episodes has those and that\u2019s really thrilling to do as an artist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: Speaking of the origins of your working relationship, have you discussed revisiting Nip\/Tuck?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>MURPHY: <\/strong>We actually have talked about that, because it\u2019s now more [relevant] today than it was when we did it. When we did it, it was considered like, \u2018What the hell is this thing?\u2019 But it was prescient in a way, which I love, because my favorite movie is <em>Network<\/em>, the Paddy Chayefsky <em>Network<\/em>. When I saw that as a 12-year-old, it\u2019s the only movie my parents ever walked out of. So of course, I had to go the next day and see it. As soon as I watched it, I was like, \u2018Well,  you\u2019re my favorite now.\u2019 You watch that, and you\u2019re like, \u2018Oh, that could never happen. That\u2019s insane.\u2019 The thing about <em>Nip\/Tuck<\/em> is, it all happened and more and worse. And<em> Nip\/Tuck<\/em> always had this sort of thesis statement about, like, tell me what you don\u2019t like about yourself, right? That was the line in every show. It was a commentary about the beauty culture. Oddly enough, saying that, I think neither John or I wanted to really revisit that show and do a reboot. I really don\u2019t like doing that. But the thing we\u2019re working on now, which is <em>The Beauty<\/em> with Evan Peters and Anthony Ramos and Jeremy Pope, it\u2019s not that at all, but it deals with the same subject matter today. So I think we figured out a way to have our cake and eat it too. I mean, I don\u2019t want to speak for you, John, but that\u2019s what I feel.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>LANDGRAF: <\/strong>It was really fundamentally about narcissism, the culture of narcissism, the absurd idea of \u2018fake it till you make it,\u2019 or just change the outside of yourself, change your brand, change how you\u2019re perceived and looked at in the world, and that will make you happy. If you remember, no character ever got happy on <em>Nip\/Tuck<\/em>. It was always sort of these <em>Grimms\u2019 Fairy Tales<\/em>, about the folly of that in various different ways. I mean, I could have never imagined that the world was going to go so far down that rabbit hole as it\u2019s gone since<em> Nip\/Tuck<\/em> to here. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\tI just find that Ryan often comes at things from a feeling, like a deeply felt sense. The business of television really, it chokes that impulse out\u2026it just says, \u2018No, no, we have to do this genre. We have to market it this way.\u2019 I just have always found it interesting, and I\u2019ve done more with Ryan than any other creator by a mile, but I\u2019ve done this with so many different creators and so many different genres. Wait a minute. What are they feeling like? Follow that impulse. Where does it lead? It\u2019s often very surprising where it leads, but it\u2019s also fascinating.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong><em>DEADLINE: Do you have anything you\u2019re cooking up that hasn\u2019t been announced yet?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-margin-lr-auto     \">\n\t<strong>MURPHY: <\/strong>Always. That\u2019s the joy of it. I love what I do, but I don\u2019t take it for granted. I love working with John and Dana [Walden]. We\u2019ve known each other for so long that we have dinners and we talk on the phone and we talk about, \u2018Well, what are you interested in today?\u2019 It\u2019s not what I was interested in a year ago. So I\u2019m always saying to John, \u2018Well, what about this? Or what about that?\u2019 John and I usually talk every Friday. We have a catch up, and we talk about how we are, how we feel, and what we\u2019re interested in next. As an artist, and somebody who looks at John as the mastermind in many ways of what I\u2019m trying to do with my creative life, that\u2019s very thrilling. But we\u2019re always talking about the future. Sometimes John will say, like, \u2018I like that other thing more. Let\u2019s go back to that.\u2019 It\u2019s a very give and take, and neither John or I ever make anything that we\u2019re not passionate about. He would never make anything that he\u2019s not interested in, and neither would I, and that\u2019s that\u2019s a very good place to be.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n     data-ad-layout-key=\"-fb+5w+4e-db+86\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"7910942971\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><div data-type=\"_mgwidget\" data-widget-id=\"1660802\">\r\n<\/div>\r\n<script>(function(w,q){w[q]=w[q]||[];w[q].push([\"_mgc.load\"])})(window,\"_mgq\");\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2024\/10\/grotesquerie-episode-7-twist-recap-ryan-murphy-fx-chief-john-landgraf-interview-1236118197\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SPOILER ALERT! 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